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<p>A while back, I wrote a post about Gravy vs Sauce.  For those of you not familiar with the GREAT DEBATE, many Italian Americans call their ragu or meat sauce &#8211; &#8220;Gravy.&#8221;  In my family we don&#8217;t refer to it as Gravy but in many Italian American families they swear by the term.</p>
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<p>A while back, I wrote a <a href="http://italyville.com/2008/07/gravy-vs-sauce/" target="_blank">post about Gravy vs Sauce</a>.  For those of you not familiar with the GREAT DEBATE, many Italian Americans call their ragu or meat sauce &#8211; &#8220;Gravy.&#8221;  In my family we don&#8217;t refer to it as Gravy but in many Italian American families they swear by the term.</p>
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<p>In my last post on the topic, my theory was that it might be a regional term &#8211; New York/New Jersey&#8230; although I still believe it&#8217;s more prevalent in that area, after received several comments and emails from Italian Americans in that area who do not use the term and others from outside that area who do, I had to rethink my position.</p>
<p>My new theory is that it may be a generational term.  I&#8217;m first generation Italian American (my parents came to the US in 1970 after they took that wonderful wedding photo (see below.)  My parent&#8217;s didn&#8217;t speak English when they arrived here&#8230; so &#8220;Gravy&#8221; wasn&#8217;t even a real word not to mention something that would describe my mother&#8217;s cooking!  It&#8217;s possible that over a few generations, as English and Italian words started to morph and the conversations became half English and half Italian (you know exactly what I&#8217;m talking about, don&#8217;t you??) that the term &#8220;Gravy&#8221; became a part of the Italian American culture for some.</p>
<p>Regardless of what you call it (brodo, sugo, salsa, marinara, gravy or sauce) cooking a Sunday dinner and smelling the wonderfulness that came out of the kitchen when the sauce or the gravy was being made stirs up wonderful memories for many Italians.  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U08Bv7UQT1w" target="_blank">Here&#8217;s a great video</a> on youtube that Susan at <a href="http://susan-myjourney.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">&#8220;My life&#8217;s Joy&#8221;</a> sent over to me a while back narrated by Robert Loggia.  I wasn&#8217;t able to embed so you&#8217;ll need to click on the link to see it.</p>
<p>My favorite part is when Robert Loggia talks about Thanksgiving as an Italian.  Turkey&#8217;s far from the main course&#8230;. so true isn&#8217;t it? For the record: Robert Loggia is second generation and calls it &#8220;Gravy&#8221;</p>
<p>So if you could leave a comment with what generation Italian you are (if you are) and if you call it Gravy or Sauce, maybe we can get down to the bottom of it!</p>
<p>Hope you all have a wonderful <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Italian</span> Thanksgiving.</p>
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		<title>Homemade &#8211; Tomato Sauce</title>
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<p style="text-align:left;">This past Saturday, we made our tomato sauce for the year.  We used to be able to make all our tomato sauce from tomatoes we grew in our own garden but times are changing and the garden isn’t as big as it used to be. Not a Problem! Do you think we would buy [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:left;">This past Saturday, we made our tomato sauce for the year.  We used to be able to make all our tomato sauce from tomatoes we grew in our own garden but times are changing and the garden isn’t as big as it used to be. Not a Problem! Do you think we would buy it at the grocery store? NEVER! It’s still doable. This years tomato crop here in New England took a serious hit from all the rain and finding Roma/Plum tomatoes has been difficult and expensive.  The local farm we usually buy them from didn&#8217;t have any but after a little research, I found a great website called <a href="http://pickyourown.org">pickyourown.org</a> that lists farms by state where you can&#8230;. you guessed it, pick your own fruits and vegetables.  After about 10 phone calls with no success and venturing further and further from home, I came across a farm in Avon, CT that had Plum tomatoes and we were off to pick em! We picked 5 bushels and got together to make sauce.  Interested in giving it a try??<strong><br />
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>What You’ll Need:</strong><br />
-Tomatoes: Cost &#8211; $15-20 per bushel ($10 last year!) if you pick your own,  more if you get them pre-picked.  I’m sure the cost varies from farm to farm and certainly from year to year, so shop around if you can.<br />
-Tomato Sauce Machine<br />
-Large pots, buckets, containers<br />
-Large wooden spoon<br />
-Sharp knives<br />
-Jars, jar tops<br />
-Basil (optional)<br />
-Stove or propane burner</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">We like to pick our own tomatoes, so that we can select the ripest and best ones. Why leave it up to someone else? Our family has always used Plum or Roma tomatoes to make our tomato sauce because they have less water content. Less water = thicker sauce. As I mentioned, this year we picked 5 bushels (give or take) of tomatoes and they yielded about 80 quart size jars of tomato sauce.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Here’s a brief step by step of how to make your own homemade tomato sauce.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>1</strong>- Select the ripest tomatoes: We recommend Plum/Roma tomatoes. They can usually be found at a local farm in your area.  In our experience one bushel of plum tomatoes will make 15-ish quart size jars of tomato sauce.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>2</strong>- If your tomatoes need to ripen a little, lay them out for a few days. We usually lay them flat on a tarp or a blanket in the garage or shed.<br />
<strong>3</strong>- Call the family over, friends… whoever likes to show up when you’re making pasta on Sundays. Use the, <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">“no work, no eat”</span> phrase that my dad likes to use whenever one of these occasions presents itself.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>4</strong>- Wash the tomatoes in a large container to get rid of any dirt, etc. Basically fill the container with water and dump in your tomatoes for a quick bath.<br />
<strong>5</strong>- Once you’ve washed the tomatoes, cut the top piece off… not too much, just the little round dot on the top of the tomato (not sure what it’s called in English but codicino in Calabrese) and slice the tomato down the center the long way. You don’t need to cut them in half, just slice them so that they open up.  Some people like to squeeze some juice out of the tomatoes after they slice them but we don&#8217;t do that anymore.  It all depends on the type of tomatoes you&#8217;re using.  The round tomatoes like Beefsteak, Jet Stars, etc. have higher water content, so it might be a good idea to give them a squeeze if that&#8217;s the variety you&#8217;re using.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>6</strong>- Place your washed, sliced tomatoes in a large pot (see below) and cook them for approx 20-30 minutes at high heat, stirring occasionally. You’ll know they’re ready when they start getting soupy and you can pinch the skin off the tomatoes (don’t burn yourself trying). We find that it’s easier and quicker to cook the tomatoes on a propane burner. It speeds up cooking time, you can use larger pots and you can do it outside or in the garage/shed, which makes cleaning up easier.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>7</strong>- Now that you’ve cooked the tomatoes, you’re ready to put them through your sauce maker. You can buy a sauce maker online or at a local kitchenware store. There are manual and automatic ones depending on your preference and price point. They can run from $40 for a manual one to $200+ for an electric one. We use a manual one…. My dad says the sauce tastes better when you work harder. Which is code for, “I’m not paying for an electric one, so shut up and turn the handle.”<br />
<strong>8</strong>- Scoop the stewed tomatoes into the machine and crank the handle. We usually scoop some of the water out so that the sauce is thicker.  The sauce will come out one end and the skins out the other. Make sure you have containers to collect both. Once you have processed the tomatoes, put the skins through for a second time. The sauce from the second round is thicker because there’s less water. We usually put the skins through a third time as well but you don’t have to.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>9</strong>- Now that you have your sauce you need to fill your jars.  The sauce machine usually comes with a funnel that fits standard jars to make things easier, otherwise you should buy a funnel… or you’ll make a mess. We grow a lot of basil, so we like to place a few leaves in each jar for taste but it’s not necessary. Scoop your sauce with a cup or mug and fill your jars a few inches from the top. Don’t fill the jars too high, we’ve found that when we fill the jars too high some of them go bad (not sure why.)</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>10</strong>- Once you’ve filled your jars, cap them with jar tops (you can finds jars and tops at any hardware store.)</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>11</strong>- When you’ve finished jarring, you’ll need to boil your jars of sauce to seal them. Place the jars in a large pot and fill the pot with water so that all the jars are submerged. Bring the water to a boil and boil the jars for about 20-30 minutes. Again, we like to use the propane burner (seen below) because it’s faster and we can use a larger pot. The pot below holds about 20 jars.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>12</strong>- After boiling the jars, remove them and cover them with a blanket. We lay one blanket down and cover the jars with another blanket so that the jars don’t cool too quickly and crack. You can leave them overnight.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">This sauce has no preservatives or additives. You can&#8217;t find this quality of tomato sauce in a grocery store. You’ll still have to cook it, add spices, meat, etc. but you’ll have fresh, homemade tomato sauce made from local ripe tomatoes for the entire year. Open a jar, make it the way you like it and <strong>Buon appetito!! </strong></p>
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<p>Well my last post certainly triggered some rants and stirred the pot a little&#8230;. I like that.  It also got me thinking about a topic that I have always wanted to post about but it&#8217;s a monster of a debate, so I have stayed away &#8230;. until now.   Maria from Philly mentioned it [...]]]></description>
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<p>Well my last post certainly triggered some rants and stirred the pot a little&#8230;. I like that.  It also got me thinking about a topic that I have always wanted to post about but it&#8217;s a monster of a debate, so I have stayed away &#8230;. until now.   Maria from Philly mentioned it in her comment.  The topic is &#8220;Gravy.&#8221;  che cosa? exactly&#8230;.. GRAVY.</p>
<p>For those of you who don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;m talking about, &#8220;Gravy&#8221; is a term that some Italian-Americans use to refer to their pasta sauce.</p>
<p><span style="font-style:italic;">I&#8217;ll start with a sprinkle of what I think and add in a pinch of what I know. </span></p>
<p>What I think: The short answer is I think gravy is for turkeys&#8230; I&#8217;m not making fun, I just think it&#8217;s what you should have with turkey.. not pasta.</p>
<p>What I know:  &#8220;Gravy&#8221; is not an Italian term (then again, neither is &#8220;sauce&#8221;.)  It is however a legitimate Italian-American term in certain regions, so it has its place in Italian-American culture. If you are an Italian-American from New York or New Jersey&#8230; maybe even outside of that area you may refer to your pasta sauce as &#8220;Gravy&#8221;.  I grew up in New England and as far as I know, Italian American&#8217;s in this area do not use the term.</p>
<p>I think the word &#8220;Gravy&#8221; may originate from a sauce that is made with meat.  It&#8217;s common practice to make a tomato sauce starting with meat and then pull the meat out as a separate dish.  The juice from the meat remains though&#8230;. so like making gravy, you&#8217;re using the juices from meat.</p>
<p>So the closest definition of &#8220;Gravy&#8221; in Italian would be Ragu, which is a meat based sauce.(not the porcheria you see in a jar at the supermarket)</p>
<p>What is Italian?  Sugo, ragu, salsa di pomodoro<br />
Look up sugo in an Italian/English dictionary and you&#8217;ll find both sauce and gravy (sugo di carne.)  It is a lively debate. If you grew up using the term, you swear by it and if you didn&#8217;t it&#8217;s a crazy concept.  Either way&#8230; buon appetito!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll leave you with this little clip from the Sopranos&#8230; I just wanted to use the first part of it but couldn&#8217;t find a shorter version, so sorry for the profanity&#8230;. and play nice!</p>
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PS &#8211; Notice how the Italians think Paulie is cRaZy!</p>
<p><em>Thanks to rickyracoon2007 for the clip</em></p>
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<p>Buon Natale a tutti!  It&#8217;s the holiday Season&#8230;. and today is Christmas Eve!</p>
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<p>Buon Natale a tutti!  It&#8217;s the holiday Season&#8230;. and today is Christmas Eve!</p>
<p>Our website &#8211; Italyville.com will launch shortly after the holidays, so make sure to check back soon.  If you&#8217;re Italian, Italian American or just enjoy Italian culture, make sure to check us out.</p>
<p>The holidays are a great time of year for many people around the world.  There are plenty of Italian specialties and traditions that help make today particularly enjoyable for Italian families.  For many Italians, fish is a huge part of Christmas Eve.  The 7 fish dinner is an Italian tradition that my family has always followed.  Basically, we serve at least 7 different types of seafood.  This tradition is more of a southern Italian tradition as most northern Italians (north of Naples) do not follow this tradition.    The reasoning behind the 7 fishes is unclear but it may have to do with the 7 sacraments of the Catholic Church or the 7 days it took Mary and Joseph to travel to Bethlehem.  Seven is often referred to as the perfect number and has great significance in the Catholic Church.  Here&#8217;s a list of seafood we&#8217;ll have on the menu tonight.</p>
<p>- Calamari (squid)<br />
- Octopus<br />
- Conch<br />
- Shrimp<br />
- Scallops<br />
- Cod (bacala)<br />
- Clams<br />
- Mussels<br />
- Lobster<br />
- Haddock</p>
<p>Two great dishes that we have each year:<br />
<strong>Antipasto di Mare (fish salad)</strong> and<br />
<strong>Zuppa di Pesce with red sauce</strong>.<br />
I&#8217;m getting hungry just thinking about it!</p>
<p>From everyone at Itayville.com, we would like to wish you and your family a Very Merry Christmas &#8211; Buon Natale a tutti!</p>
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